I've never been able to understand it entirely. What value does it actually bring, and why is it necessary? If 99% of the population values life, then on what premise? Does it make me and that other 1% (or a couple million people) completely wrong about the fact that because life is completely meaningless it is therefore valueless? If this world values life so much, why are we killing everything around us for comforts?
just curious
just curious
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Re: why do people value life?
Wed, April 30, 2008 - 7:39 PMI don't think there is any overriding reason to value life. I think that what we do with life is what's important.
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Re: why do people value life?
Thu, May 1, 2008 - 5:38 AMThe mere act of living is an affirmation of life, no matter how badly one fucks it up for oneself or others or perverts it. -
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Re: why do people value life?
Fri, May 2, 2008 - 3:05 PMwe learn.
we help others.
we share love, and that makes everything better than nothing.
I think life is a big laboratory, and that one day, all our lessons will make sense--the lessons we learn and the ones we teach.
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Re: why do people value life?
Mon, May 5, 2008 - 10:27 AMvalue it? i'm not sure how much i do... however i believe that if you cut your own life short you simply get sent back for another shot at learning whatever lessons you have to learn... i don't think you move on to your next lesson until you have mastered the one you are set up to learn this time around....
as much as i'd like to escape this one and move on to another one i get the feeling that i can't get around it... i'm doomed to learn these lessons before i can move on...
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Re: why do people value life?
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 6:23 PMthose who value it don't think too much about it...but then they aren't plagued by the wish to leave it. ...it's an innate feeling that life is extremely rare it will never happen again for you...never.....and takes a HELL of a lot of effort on the part of nature and humanity to allow each of us to experience it. the earth bends over backwards for us to exist here, and gives and gives and gives, for us to live here..... life is the biggest gift you could ever receive ...i don't think a house or a car really compares....it's the rarest moment in time you can experience....i'm sorry you can't feel that, i hope you will see that before the point of no return....i guess we kill everything around us out of ignorance....and we kill ourselves out of ignorance as well.....we just don't know.....nature is very forgiving, -
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Re: why do people value life?
Wed, May 14, 2008 - 4:48 PMAhhh, yes. The "You should be grateful, because I told you to" argument. Its the first argument I expected to here, and the most unoriginal. Of course, it is based on an assumption of the presence of God, or that nature is actually giving to us, rather than us just taking it, or even considering that we are part of nature. It is indifferent to our existence, our life or our death.
Do me a favor, and don't ever give that argument to anyone who is actually considering suicide, it might just put them over the edge. -
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Re: why do people value life?
Thu, May 15, 2008 - 8:14 PMwell, that argument actually helped me to have a different perspective, so i disagree that it would put someone over the edge. -
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Re: why do people value life?
Mon, May 19, 2008 - 12:54 PMthe Native Americans inspire me, not in the cliche sense, but as a truly authentic experience of dependency on nature. Sure I bet there were those who didn't then or now don't experience gratitude to Nature or who took/take without regard, but as a lifestyle, in general, it seems to me that the Native Americans and many native cultures live as part of the landscape rather than by taming it, harnessing it, etc.. That's can be beautiful, though not always symbiotic just because it's nature. A great writer once described nature as "red in tooth and claw."
I live for beauty which can be found in nature or anywhere, even in the way a Coke bottle teaches me about the goodness of limitations. :) (long story) But that's much like a mystic's path--trying to find a way through the mundane.
I had a reaction to Amy's post, too, but I think I can get the spirit of what she was trying to share. I do think that pity ('I'm sorry you can't feel that') can come across as insulting and condescending, but I want to believe that it was meant in a good way.
Yes, we should be honest without being so frank that we hurt others, though when we are so tender it is VERY easy to hurt each other. Truly caring means self-discipline, even of our expressions.
When we can't see where others are or may be, we cannot reach them.
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